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I DID IT I DID IT! THE 78G WRITES LIKE A JUICE MONKEY!!! yippy!!!

damn. that was really easy. i'm about to mess with the 742, now. wish me luck.



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DWL wrote:

Right on, GL with the flow work. Be sure to brush out the feed with a toothbrush or somethng like that to make sure there isn't any debris left behind & test the flow for several paragraphs/half page or so after you score it to ensure the flow is as it first appears.



so you're saying that it can appear juicy and then dry up later??  hmm.  or appear juicy and then get juicier?



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SWEET! Great job.

Re: your last, yes to both. and no to both. thats why you need to write test it. I've seen both things happen.

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LMAO

Juicy Monkey.

Thats F'ing funny man.

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if you look at the back side of the nib, it looks like it gets narrower, and the sides fold down to form little wings or walls that hold onto the feed.  now look at the feed, kind of at the bottom left part, where there likes like there's a groove or a detent in the feed where the ribs are.  that's where the nib grabs hold of the feed.  this keeps everything lined up very nicely when you go to stick it all back together.
really clever.

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all i did was make two gentle passes at the ink channel and it has absolutely made the world of difference.  if i rest the pen and drag it, it makes the same tiny fine line as before.  i never write with such light pressure, but i have a pretty light touch.

depending on how it writes over the next few days, and what i think about it, i might go back in and operate again.  but i'll wait a while, first. 



VERY HAPPY.

thanks dwl.


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"..that's where the nib grabs hold of the feed. this keeps everything lined up very nicely when you go to stick it all back together. really clever."

Indeed, it's a great design that works very well.

"all i did was make two gentle passes at the ink channel and it has absolutely made the world of difference."

Thats fantastic & to quote one of my all time favorite TV characters..."I love it when a plan comes together" (insert grinning cigar chomp here...lol)

"Thanks DWL"

It's my pleasure to help out.

-- Edited by DWL on Tuesday 20th of April 2010 08:47:34 PM

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okay, so update on the pen. increased flow a little, it's VERY different with different inks. parker skips like mad, my noodlers bpblack skips like mad, levenger cobalt blue seems to do REALLY well, and the pilot black cart it came with was as near perfect as i can imagine. and that's AFTER the scoring. did i not score it enough??? why would it only flow like mad with the one ink? and the only reason i'm finding this now is b/c the black cart is what i used after i made the initial 'cuts'. do i just need to go pick up a bottle of pilot black? why does it seem like cutting the feed hasn't really made any difference?? or should i take a pearing knife to this thing? smile.gif ha!

and when i say there's a huge difference between the inks, i mean a HUGE difference. i inked it up with baystate blue last night after my black cart ran out and it wouldn't even write for a minute. i had to scribble and scribble and SCRIBBLE before it would make any marks. what the hell??? could it just be this particular ink is thick?? it wrote better with the other inks i mentioned. i'm thinking bsblue is some thick stuff, but i don't know...

and if i wanted to just buy another feed for this thing, in case i RUIN this one, is there a site i could order from? say, "hey, here is the length, and inner diameter of my pen..." yadda yadda??? or could i order one from pilot?

blah...

thanks for any help.

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Ink thickness can vary, and can affect the way a pen writes. I cannot speak for BSB; I have always heard how dangerous it can be. Parker Black is one of my staples! It is well behaved, and great for mixing/darkening other inks (Those that can be). A good example of this thickness problems are Parker Vac pens. Private Reserve inks are too thick for them. I have learned this first hand! smile.gif

If you have ruined that feed, or just not happy with the result, the good news is these pens are cheap enough to replace! I know that isellpens.com sells them for $12. You can also check ebay, and buy direct from sources in Asia. The problem there is you need to buy in bulk! It's amazing how many of these pens are available NOS considering how old they are!
Pilot made them in the 70's/80's?, and they are long discontinued!

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eeehhhh. this pen is brand new and cost $160.

i'm going to order some pilot black and hope it works out for me...

love the baystateblue, wish it worked better...

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watch_art wrote:

eeehhhh. this pen is brand new and cost $160.

i'm going to order some pilot black and hope it works out for me...

love the baystateblue, wish it worked better...

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You know- Stupid Me!  I was thinking this was a black 78G!
(Looked like one all apart and stuff)  Sorry I was not paying attention!

You can check with vendors like Richard Binder (richardspens.com) for parts like this.
I'm sure that he can point you in the right direction otherwise!

Frank

 



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Frank wrote:

watch_art wrote:

eeehhhh. this pen is brand new and cost $160.

i'm going to order some pilot black and hope it works out for me...

love the baystateblue, wish it worked better...

**sadface**


You know- Stupid Me!  I was thinking this was a black 78G!
(Looked like one all apart and stuff)  Sorry I was not paying attention!

I should be "shellaced and feathered" for such a gross insult!  

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Frank smile.gif

      
 

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heh!

no big deal.

i went ahead and emailed binder and he said GOOD LUCK! YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT! not in those words, but you know...

i carved it out a TINY bit more and am running noodler's purple through it and it's writing quite nicely.

oh yeah, and i cleaned it in the ultra sonic.

but it's writing great with the purple.
can't wait till my pilot black gets here.

cheers!

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