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hee hee hes. Sorry bud no pics until Feb 1 at the very earliest. Still considering holding out until Feb 11th for the show.

-- Edited by DWL on Sunday 10th of January 2010 10:35:31 AM

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hee hee hes. Sorry bud no pics until Feb 1 at the very earliest. Still considering holding out until Feb 11th for the show.

-- Edited by DWL on Sunday 10th of January 2010 10:35:31 AM




Ye'r an evil, evil man ... smile.gif



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Please know it's just as hard for me NOT to show & tell as it is for you not to see...lol.

I know I've said it before but it's true.

The debut is going to flat out blow everyone away.



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yes yes yes yes!!!

Remember the 'new C&C guy I mentioned earlier? Well....I just got off the phone with my new personal hero.

He's a master tool & die craftsman that was referred by my leather craftsman Joe Patrickus. I'm danged glad he called Arnie to pop over & say hi. We talked at length & he agreed to step in to handle my fp prototype design. Mind you, I spoke with him 2 days ago, gave him my notebook & sketchbooks, a handful of parts & pieces. He said 'let me go get dad & let us play around some.' (he's a 3rd generation tool & die man btw).

Turns out him & dad got busy all right! There is a prototype sitting on his bench waiting on my evaluation! My head was spinning with astonishment & joy, so my focus was a bit off, but I think he may have said something about another 1 or 2 in the wings soon after our meeting.

2 days!! My first guy took over a month & a half to even START on something.

Venus has errands to run tomorrow morning & it's going to be agony waiting until she gets back after lunch to go see...lol

-- Edited by DWL on Monday 11th of January 2010 01:30:37 PM

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It's been a VERY productive day. Lots of good news 1 bit of not so good news.

Bad news first. My new probation officer won't let me leave the state for the LA show. I have to pay off a big 3K chunk of my past due child support before I get the OK. Not what I wanted to hear but what can I do other than wait until the tax return lands, drop a load of cash on them and plan for the debut at the Chicago show.

The good news is I have my prototype in hand & it's just awesome! Not exactly what I had in mind but very good all the same. Venus, Alex (my 19 yr old son)me & Arnie sat down for lunch and talked for better than an hour about everything we could think of. He brought up a few suggestions that left my mind reeling with the possibilities.

I know I said I was going tom wait to show any pics, but since I have to wit for Chicago now I think It'll be OK to offer up a sneak peek. Do keep in mind this is just a mechanical work up with really none of the aesthetics in place. The cap (and sectio0n to a lesser degree) are going to undergo some significant changes so don't pay too close attention to them. Also keep in mind this is aluminum, the final products will be celluloid & HR.









You may notice a picture inside the barrel. It's 'sandwiched' between 2 pyrex vials. The inner vial is 100% removable for filling and replacement if needed. This is the smallest version of the Savage lines to come and holds 3.5ml of ink. The pen is sitting on my desk right now, loaded with my custom 'Lively Green' ink and wites better than most of the pens I currently own! I dont have words to say how happy I am right now even with the PO's bad news..





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Bummer about LA; I was looking forward to meeting you and drooling over the prototype(s) in person. :-/

What does that pen have for a nib? In the photos it almost looks like a rollerball.

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"Bummer about LA; I was looking forward to meeting you and drooling over the prototype(s) in person."

The feeling is mutual. I'm REALLY bummed out about it, but I'll live. LA was the first show I ever attended & wanted to have the debut there, but such is not to be this time around.

For the mock up, we used a sheaffer school pen section, machined down to size. 2nd pic, you can see it fairly well. I'm planning on a matching RB to go with the FP (and possibly MP as well, if I can find a twist mechanism I like at the right price) The mock up as it sits right now, can take a waterman RB refill with the addition of a small spacer. (sort of like the Parker big red RB/BP's used)

When we hit full production, I'll be using the same 18K nib Brian Gray uses in his (freaking awesome) Edison Pens.

The more I use this mock up with the sheaffer school pen nib in it, the more I want to find a way to use them in an 'economy model'.

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The mailman just dopped off a package of carbon fiber rod & tube samples from Composite Resources. I have to say.....these look GOOD!! The price is right & the quality is there. Carbon fiber Savage Pen anyone........

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Can you put a ruler against the prototype? Can't get a good feel for the ratios by looking at it.


Interesting cutouts and I bet that there sould be some filigree work across them as well!

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Can you put a ruler against the prototype? Can't get a good feel for the ratios by looking at it.


Interesting cutouts and I bet that there sould be some filigree work across them as well!



Dennis posted elsewhere that the pen is 5-1/8" capped and 6" posted if that helps. That cap is currently 1" in diameter as well.



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a few quick & dirty desktop pics are on the way. Transferring them from the camera now.

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Here's a tray shot of a few common pens.



L-R
Waterman Gentlemen, Levenger/Omas (Decathalon?), Wateman Expert, Savage Pen co. Attrition, Wearever deluxe 100, common tun of the century ED, Eversharp skyline & a 51 vac missing the clip.

Looks like my putty didn't hold as well as I'd hoped. I present to you the leaning pen of Missouri...lol.

Capped & 1/2 filled with 'Lively Green' to show off the ink view/demonstrator aspect.



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With ink in it the pen sort of looks like a Sci-Fi prop. You know the carrier for the serum that saves the worldbiggrin

How is the trasition on the section for writing. Thinking of knurling it or maybe concentric circles for gripping?

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My oldest son Alex said I need to put a thin glass double helix inside and call it the T-Virus model. (resident evil sorta thing,)

'How is the transition on the section for writing. Thinking of knurling it or maybe concentric circles for gripping?'

We are doing a couple of things. I suggested the knurling, he offered up a few ideas as well. I like the concentric circle thing, thanks for the suggestion.

I want the section/barrel joint is to be lowered close to the vial. giving it a less acute taper/angle. Then with knurling (or your circles Kurt) and a slight concave should finish it off.



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As an old machinist and Master Gunsmith I like the mechanics of the prototype in metal.
That's a whopper of a pen and ink capacity!!!
I played Resident Evil from the very first edition of the game to be released, from beginning to end too several times, long before most people had ever heard of it and yes it does remind me of aspects of not only the original and follow-up games but the movies too.
Hold on tight to that aluminum prototype, or keep in the hands of someone that will, as it's sure to be a collectors' item one day.
I like knurling, probably the machinist/Gunsmith in me and from checkering custom wood grips & gun-stocks over the years, although it does tend to collect dirt and oils from handling it's nothing a soft bristle toothbrush, some liquid soap and running water can't remove.
I'd almost like to see one like the prototype in stainless steel instead of aluminum, maybe machine-turn [jewel] the outer surfaces to give it a more refined technical look, kinda like a jeweled rifle bolt.

Bummer about the PA, seems the idea of going out of state on a business quest trying to make money so you can pay your bills was lost on them and that's ignorant. I mean if you wanted to skip state, do they really think you'd call to tell them? Makes no sense to me, sorry to hear it.

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My oldest son Alex said I need to put a thin glass double helix inside and call it the T-Virus model. (resident evil sorta thing,)

'How is the transition on the section for writing. Thinking of knurling it or maybe concentric circles for gripping?'

We are doing a couple of things. I suggested the knurling, he offered up a few ideas as well. I like the concentric circle thing, thanks for the suggestion.

I want the section/barrel joint is to be lowered close to the vial. giving it a less acute taper/angle. Then with knurling (or your circles Kurt) and a slight concave should finish it off.




Whatever you do at the section, make it VERY shallow, just enough to help prevent slipping, otherwise it will be uncomfortable in a normal pen grip.

A deep knurl on the cap would look great, though.



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"Whatever you do at the section, make it VERY shallow, just enough to help prevent slipping"

Thats the plan.

Your a photoshop master right? Any chance you want to snag the images & play with them some? I'd love to see what you come up with.

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Dennis, interesting design. Not sure I like the cap at the extreme diameter it is compared to the body. I'll be interested to see what you come up with once the transition to final materials happens.

Any chance on a quick synopsys as to whats unique about the pen? Whats the ink capacity?

Definately have to say tho, seems to have the right kind of girth for myself!!!

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DWL wrote:

Your a photoshop master right? Any chance you want to snag the images & play with them some? I'd love to see what you come up with.




I'm hardly that, but if you can give me ALL the dimensions, I can 3D model the thing and play with it that way. smile.gif



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Looks really cool Dennis!

I like the overall look, and agree that the cap needs some cool etching/gouges/etc..
to maintain that girth!

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