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ST Dupont has a long history of producing luxury goods. They began with luggage, combining craftsmanship and the absolutely best materials to produce luggage that looked great but also would stand up to the hardest use. Later they got into lighters producing what have always been the very best ones available anywhere.

In the early 70s ST Dupont decided to get into fountain pens.

As usual, they carried over their experience in precision manufacture, precious metal and Chinese Lacquer techniques into the pens they built.

In this post we will deal with one model, the Olympio.

The history of the model gets a little complicated as they used different names for the series in different markets and also in their descriptions of the sizes.

In Europe and parts of Asia, the line was called Orpheo while in the US market it was called Olympio, so you will often find the terms used interchangeably. Initially there were two sizes, and they were described as Large and Extra Large. Later a third smaller pen was added that was called Fidelio and the size of the former changed from Large to Medium and Extra Large to Standard.

The pen we will look at here is the Large size (medium) Olympio, in particular one in the lined gold finish.



The sizes of the pens capped as shown are:

5 1/4"
5 1/2"
5 3/4"

Like all of the ST Dupont pens it is a cartridge filled pen or can use regular ink with an included converter. The Olympio series uses a standard sized international cartridge or converter so there is a broad selection of inks available.



The machining is absolutely amazing. Each engraved line is slightly undercut and the undercut part faceted. This produced a wonderful effect. The lines directly in line of sight show only the flat top, as the angle changes you see the faceted effect and as you see beyond the depth of the engraving the lines appear smooth again. The look changes constantly; playing with light, shadow and viewing angle.

The Large and Extra Large Olympios both use the 18K nib while the slightly smaller Fidelio uses a 14K nib. The nib on this pen is an Extra Fine 18K gold wrap around nib that is super smooth and puts down a moderately wet line.

As mentioned above, the highlight of any ST Dupont product is their attention to detail and that is true here as well. The clip is spring loaded so it slides on smoothly and holds securely on thin fabrics or thick. The cap slides on or off nearly effortlessly but when you are putting it on, the last few millimeters allow it to center and then there is a reassuring "Click" as it seats in place.

Another feature I love about the ST Duponts is that when the cap is posted, the pen is only slightly longer than when capped. The cap remains in place securely, the balance is great and once again everything simply feels just as it should.

This is quite different from other large sized pens that are often considerably longer when the cap is posted than when the pen is capped.

Here is the Olympio and a Montblanc 146 posted as an example.



There are quite a few pens out there in the same relative size as the ST Dupont Olympio ...



From left to right: Conway Stewart 100, Montblanc LeGrand 146, OMAS Ogiva (D-Day), OMAS old style Paragon, Olympio Large, Pelikan 800, Sheaffer Legacy, Levenger Sheaffer Connoisseur, Waterman Expert.

... but there are few that provide the complete package, that address aesthetics, performance, feel and sound.

ST Dupont.  Luxury defined as the attention to detail in even the most mundane of things.

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Excellent pics, information and post! thanks man. I enjoyed reading that.

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As I mentioned in the above, the Olympio/Orpheo/Fidelio family consists of three similar pens in different sizes.



We looked at the Large (Medium) sized, so now let's turn our attention to the smaller Fidelio.

The Fidelio is still a fairly large pen, 5 1/4" long closed and about 5 1/2" posted. It is similar in size to many other popular pens...



From left to right: Parker Sonnet, Waterman Phineas, Pelikan 600, ST Dupont Fidelio, Pilot/Namaki VP, Sheaffer Prelude and OMAS old style Milord.

...but has all the characteristics of a ST Dupont product.

Fit and finish are perfect and the sound when capping is classic Dupont. The nibs are 14K, a rhodium plated medium one on the silver one and a single tone gold fine hard one on the black Lacquer version.





I find that my Fidelios get more pocket time than either the large or extra-large versions simply because they fit my hand perfectly. They put down a moderately wet line, with no signs of skip or hesitation and the fine nib in particular always amazes me.

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Now let's examine the last of the Olympios, Goldilocks BIG bed.



As mentioned above this was originally called the Standard size and later the X-Large. It is 5 3/4" long capped.

This really is a big pen, right in there with some of the largest made.



From left to right: Pelikan 1050, Montblanc 149, the Olympio, OMAS new style Milord and 360.

Just as with all the others, the attention to fit, finish and detail is pure perfection. The hand done Chinese Lacquer work is amazing.



The pen posted is only about 1/4" longer than when capped and the balance is perfect.



If you are looking for a pen that is in the medium to large size, and want a pen that will please ALL of your senses, the ST Dupont Olympio series should be on your list.

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Nice review!
Help! I have had a problem recently with new Dupont cartridges and an older Olympio. They just dont seem to fit properly. Tried to get some of the older model cartridges, not that easy. Anyone else encountered this?

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Never had a problem with that. The Orpheo/Olympio/Fidelo series were designed around the international standard. The Classique, Lady, Gatsby and Montparnasse used a proprietary cartridge and yes, they are getting hard to find. That group also used none standard converters, in particular the Montparnase had it's own unique converter.

The biggest difference is in the diameter of the feed tube. The older ST Duponts used a wider diameter feed tube than the later Olympios and Neo-Classiques.

Can you post a picture of the pen and in particular, a picture of the feed tube?

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Thanks for your post. But I really dislike Dupont pens; waaaay to overdone. Liken many Italian and modern Chinese penmakers their motto seems to be; the more ornaments the better!

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Less is More wrote:

Thanks for your post. But I really dislike Dupont pens; waaaay to overdone. Liken many Italian and modern Chinese penmakers their motto seems to be; the more ornaments the better!




Great. Isn't it wonderful that there are so many fine pens to choose from?



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o yes, you are right, but because pens tend to become more of a luxury item than a everyday utensil, the designs get more "flashy". The sleek designs of the past seem to be hard to find.

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o yes, you are right, but because pens tend to become more of a luxury item than a everyday utensil, the designs get more "flashy". The sleek designs of the past seem to be hard to find.




Well, I'm not sure I have any idea what you mean by "sleek designs of the past"?

Do you mean the ornate filigree and inlaid work, the bright casein bodies, the fanciful overlays, the complex patterning found in many vintage celluloid bodies;  the complex filling mechanisms like the Snorkel?

 

Consider the Fidelio.

 

or the Gatsby

 

 

Compare them to some of the pens from the past:

 

 

How are the older pens different than the newer ST Duponts?



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I meant the post WW2 designs like the P51 or humbler Snorkels. Consider Esterbrook. Or Targa! But the Targa nib was rather ornate.confuse

Consider most P 45's!

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The P-51 was a 1940s design, the Snorkel early 50s and the Parker 45 early 60s. The Targa came in perhaps the broadest range of styles, colors and models of any modern pen. Esterbrook was a second or third tier manufacturer and building to a market niche.

If we look at the three companies, Esterbrook never tried very hard to build an upscale pen, they simply did not compete in that market at all.

The Parker 45 was designed to be an entry level pen. It was meant as a student pen, something to try to compete in price with the then new ball points.

The other three, the Parker 51 the Targa and the Sheaffer Snorkel, always competed in the upscale market. Even the lowest priced versions of the 51 and Snorkel were not cheap. They also had models that were unbelievably expensive. In 1949 Parker offered their Presidential 51 available in 9K or 18K gold. I remember seeing one once in the early 60s and it would have cost me over $100.00 even though it was used. Since my gross income at the time was about $400.00 a month, needless to say I passed.

ST Dupont though is something different. They have always concentrated on producing items where the attention to detail in even the most mundane of areas approaches perfection.

Everything they make is crafted, not mass produced. Unfortunately, craftsmanship means high labor costs. Someday stop by a store that handles their products. Check a few out. Open and close one of their lighters then try the same with a Zippo. Look at their luggage then go test out a set of Amelia Earhart. Handle a few of their pens and look at the fit and finish inside the pen, places that do not even show like the underside of the pocket clip. Look at the lacquer finish, run your hand over it particularly where it meets the metal surfaces.

It's true that ST Dupont does not make low cost pens. They do not compete in the arena with Bic or Lamy or low end Pilots or most of the Chinese pens. But as you can see from the pictures above, they also seldom do ornamentation for ornamentation sake. When they do do ornamentation they do it very well.

Sure a Zippo lighter works. Sure Amelia Earhart luggage works (though why anyone would name luggage after the flight that never reached its destination is another question). Sure you can buy Pilot Preppies.

They are all available today.

But that is NOT what ST Dupont is all about.

ST Dupont.

Excellence through attention to even the most mundane detail.



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ST Dupont though is something different. They have always concentrated on producing items where the attention to detail in even the most mundane of areas approaches perfection.

Everything they make is crafted, not mass produced. Unfortunately, craftsmanship means high labor costs. Someday stop by a store that handles their products. Check a few out. Open and close one of their lighters then try the same with a Zippo. Look at their luggage then go test out a set of Amelia Earhart. Handle a few of their pens and look at the fit and finish inside the pen, places that do not even show like the underside of the pocket clip. Look at the lacquer finish, run your hand over it particularly where it meets the metal surfaces.

It's true that ST Dupont does not make low cost pens. They do not compete in the arena with Bic or Lamy or low end Pilots or most of the Chinese pens. But as you can see from the pictures above, they also seldom do ornamentation for ornamentation sake. When they do do ornamentation they do it very well.

Sure a Zippo lighter works. Sure Amelia Earhart luggage works (though why anyone would name luggage after the flight that never reached its destination is another question). Sure you can buy Pilot Preppies.

They are all available today.

But that is NOT what ST Dupont is all about.

ST Dupont.

Excellence through attention to even the most mundane detail.

hmmm, are you perhaps a Dupont sales rep?


 



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Less is More wrote:

 

jar wrote:


ST Dupont though is something different. They have always concentrated on producing items where the attention to detail in even the most mundane of areas approaches perfection.

Everything they make is crafted, not mass produced. Unfortunately, craftsmanship means high labor costs. Someday stop by a store that handles their products. Check a few out. Open and close one of their lighters then try the same with a Zippo. Look at their luggage then go test out a set of Amelia Earhart. Handle a few of their pens and look at the fit and finish inside the pen, places that do not even show like the underside of the pocket clip. Look at the lacquer finish, run your hand over it particularly where it meets the metal surfaces.

It's true that ST Dupont does not make low cost pens. They do not compete in the arena with Bic or Lamy or low end Pilots or most of the Chinese pens. But as you can see from the pictures above, they also seldom do ornamentation for ornamentation sake. When they do do ornamentation they do it very well.

Sure a Zippo lighter works. Sure Amelia Earhart luggage works (though why anyone would name luggage after the flight that never reached its destination is another question). Sure you can buy Pilot Preppies.

They are all available today.

But that is NOT what ST Dupont is all about.

ST Dupont.

Excellence through attention to even the most mundane detail.




hmmm, are you perhaps a Dupont sales rep?

 




Nope. Not so lucky. For awhile though I did get to sell neat things like Lotus and Alfa Romeo and play with stuff like Maseratis. Did get to work in a couple industries while they were still new and so help establish the state of the art at the time.

They were all fun.

I'm just an old fart that has been using pens for way too long.


 



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Nope. Not so lucky. For awhile though I did get to sell neat things like Lotus and Alfa Romeo and play with stuff like Maseratis. Did get to work in a couple industries while they were still new and so help establish the state of the art at the time.

They were all fun.

I'm just an old fart that has been using pens for way too long.


I wouldn't be happy in that world. I'm more of a Lada guy. I like austerity. Call me a Thoreau person. Fiat124_lada.jpg

 




 



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Less is More wrote:

 

 

Nope. Not so lucky. For awhile though I did get to sell neat things like Lotus and Alfa Romeo and play with stuff like Maseratis. Did get to work in a couple industries while they were still new and so help establish the state of the art at the time.

They were all fun.

I'm just an old fart that has been using pens for way too long.



 




I wouldn't be happy in that world. I'm more of a Lada guy. I like austerity. Call me a Thoreau person.

 



Ah yes, the ersatz Fiat 124.

Never had a Lada but lots of other cars; DKWs, Humbers, early BMW 1800.

 



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Nice cars to talk about guys!

You can have my ear anytime about European Cars!

Frank

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